rajenk
01-23 12:49 PM
Have you used AC21?
What are the implications if for some wierd reason your I-485 gets denied and you dont have an H1-B to fall back upon?
Say you have an H1-B which is extended for 3 yrs( based on approved I-140) from now till 2011, in the year 2011 your I-485 file is opned and its not approved for some reason so will you get another 3 yr extension for H1-B ie till year 2014?
When you are switching employer with AC21 using H1B you can get a transfer to the new company for 3 years and get extensions from the new employer when that 3 year expires. So no worries... Enjoy
What are the implications if for some wierd reason your I-485 gets denied and you dont have an H1-B to fall back upon?
Say you have an H1-B which is extended for 3 yrs( based on approved I-140) from now till 2011, in the year 2011 your I-485 file is opned and its not approved for some reason so will you get another 3 yr extension for H1-B ie till year 2014?
When you are switching employer with AC21 using H1B you can get a transfer to the new company for 3 years and get extensions from the new employer when that 3 year expires. So no worries... Enjoy
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EdenMN
06-12 07:17 PM
Sorry to hear your situation. Not yet got GC ,inspite of your PD is current ..... consult senators and congraswoman Lofgren.
BTW sorry to ask ,why your login id Refugee... You are not REFUGEE, you are highly skilled professional , paying heavy tax ....
BTW sorry to ask ,why your login id Refugee... You are not REFUGEE, you are highly skilled professional , paying heavy tax ....
gc_kaavaali
06-27 02:20 PM
Can you please provide below details
when did u file for your EAD renewal? Is it e-file or paper based file? what is the service center?
Just got �Card Production Ordered� LUD for EAD for both myself and my wife. Wish it could have happened on the next working day, which is Monday - June 30th, we could have got 2 year EAD, unlucky!!!
when did u file for your EAD renewal? Is it e-file or paper based file? what is the service center?
Just got �Card Production Ordered� LUD for EAD for both myself and my wife. Wish it could have happened on the next working day, which is Monday - June 30th, we could have got 2 year EAD, unlucky!!!
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hinvin66
08-11 12:08 AM
EB2-I PD: May 30, 2006
The saga goes on...
My original sponsoring desi company did not give me the labor that they filed for me in 2003, so I moved to company "A" after that. Read on...
Second H1B 3-year extension beyond original 6 years !
My PD is May 30. 2006 (beat the Aug 2008 VB by a day!) from company "A", I-140 (EB2-I) approved
Ported to company "B", I-140 (EB2-I) approved (premium - 2007)
Company "B" filed for 1st 3-year H1B extension using AC21 as backup
Filed for I-485: RD=Aug 2; ND=Sep 17
Changed to company "C" 2 months back using AC21 (don't know details of documentation sent - handled by company "C" legal department)
Company "C" filed for 2nd 3-year extension H1B using AC21as backup
FP done in Oct 2007
Used AP for Int'l travel 6 times for business trips.
Soft LUDs in Dec 2007, Feb 2008
Applied for EAD renewal in July 2008
Applied for AP renewal in Aug 2008
Waiting for I-485 approval ... No RFE yet
The saga goes on...
My original sponsoring desi company did not give me the labor that they filed for me in 2003, so I moved to company "A" after that. Read on...
Second H1B 3-year extension beyond original 6 years !
My PD is May 30. 2006 (beat the Aug 2008 VB by a day!) from company "A", I-140 (EB2-I) approved
Ported to company "B", I-140 (EB2-I) approved (premium - 2007)
Company "B" filed for 1st 3-year H1B extension using AC21 as backup
Filed for I-485: RD=Aug 2; ND=Sep 17
Changed to company "C" 2 months back using AC21 (don't know details of documentation sent - handled by company "C" legal department)
Company "C" filed for 2nd 3-year extension H1B using AC21as backup
FP done in Oct 2007
Used AP for Int'l travel 6 times for business trips.
Soft LUDs in Dec 2007, Feb 2008
Applied for EAD renewal in July 2008
Applied for AP renewal in Aug 2008
Waiting for I-485 approval ... No RFE yet
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smartboy75
07-17 07:25 PM
Hi All
As the dates become current, I see a lot of people asking the same questions again and again....why can't people do a little search on the forumn before posting repeated questions already asked before ..For eg: Filling i-485 and presence in US or filling without the help of lawyers....
I mean come on guys..we call ourselves highly skilled labours and don't even have the skill to find out answers to common questions by searching the forumns???? I am really begining to doubt the IQ of some cause if not how do u explain it...
DON'T GET ME WRONG....ACT SMART
As the dates become current, I see a lot of people asking the same questions again and again....why can't people do a little search on the forumn before posting repeated questions already asked before ..For eg: Filling i-485 and presence in US or filling without the help of lawyers....
I mean come on guys..we call ourselves highly skilled labours and don't even have the skill to find out answers to common questions by searching the forumns???? I am really begining to doubt the IQ of some cause if not how do u explain it...
DON'T GET ME WRONG....ACT SMART
cygent
04-01 07:43 PM
Thanks,
Ok, let me put it this way.
Is the any advantage (or not), filing 140 1st, and lets say your PD is already current, file AOS later. I.E. file them Separately, not in the same packet.
So in this scenario, is the any difference vs. filing concurrently or not?
Ok, let me put it this way.
Is the any advantage (or not), filing 140 1st, and lets say your PD is already current, file AOS later. I.E. file them Separately, not in the same packet.
So in this scenario, is the any difference vs. filing concurrently or not?
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ftbakhru
10-21 10:58 AM
Vikram:
How long did it take for your AP approval and which srevice center? Thanks!
How long did it take for your AP approval and which srevice center? Thanks!
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manderson
05-21 02:10 PM
...only problem is they care only about H1:
US-India visa row overshadows Doha talks
By Alan Beattie in London and Jo Johnson in New Delhi
Published: May 17 2007 17:52 | Last updated: May 18 2007 03:23
Tentative signs of progress among the four core negotiating partners in the so-called �Doha round� of world trade talks have been overshadowed by a row over US visas given to Indian information technology workers.
Two days of negotiations between the US, the EU, India and Brazil began in Brussels on Thursday, as officials said talks had accelerated from the sluggish pace they have shown for most of this year.
But Kamal Nath, Indian trade minister, warned that US reluctance to allow Indian IT workers to enter the US on highly skilled �H1-B� visas jeopardised progress. Seeking to shift the emphasis away from India�s intransigence about exposing its farmers to international competition, Mr Nath said a failure to increase the H1-B quota would deny India the export gains it needed to make a deal.
Echoing language often used by the EU and the US, he told the FT on Wednesday: �We agree that the talks cannot move forward with agriculture alone. Our services interests must be satisfied for progress to be made.�
Delhi reacted angrily this week to a letter sent to Indian IT companies by two US senators, alleging fraud and abuse in the H1-B programme. Charles Grassley and Richard Durbin, members of the Senate subcommittee on immigration, said the visas were being used to undercut US workers with lower-paid foreign employees.
In a letter to Susan Schwab, US trade representative, seen by the FT, Mr Nath said that the approach, which was not made through the office of the US trade representative, was surprising and unwelcome.
�Such direct intervention by US senators would only create uncertainties in the minds of these companies and undermine business confidence, especially in the current negotiations on services,� the letter said.
So great is demand for H1B visas from Indian IT companies that this year�s quota of 65,000 was filled in a day. An Indian commerce ministry official said on Thursday that India wanted the annual cap lifted to 115,000.
A USTR spokesperson on Thursday declined to comment on either the senators� letter or the negotiations over visas in the Doha round.
Officials and ministers expressed some guarded optimism ahead of this week�s meetings of the four negotiating partners, though remained non-committal about the substance of talks. Ms Schwab said that some issues, including access to the agricultural markets of developing countries, a key demand of the US, had further to go than others.
The rest of the World Trade Organisation membership, among whom frustration with the �group of four� has been rising, has been trying to increase pressure on them to make the trade-offs necessary to achieve a framework agreement before the traditional WTO summer break in August. �They are moving, but whether they are moving fast enough is another question,� a trade official said.
Crawford Falconer, the New Zealand ambassador who chairs the farm talks, last week released the first of two papers setting out the terms for a possible deal.
US-India visa row overshadows Doha talks
By Alan Beattie in London and Jo Johnson in New Delhi
Published: May 17 2007 17:52 | Last updated: May 18 2007 03:23
Tentative signs of progress among the four core negotiating partners in the so-called �Doha round� of world trade talks have been overshadowed by a row over US visas given to Indian information technology workers.
Two days of negotiations between the US, the EU, India and Brazil began in Brussels on Thursday, as officials said talks had accelerated from the sluggish pace they have shown for most of this year.
But Kamal Nath, Indian trade minister, warned that US reluctance to allow Indian IT workers to enter the US on highly skilled �H1-B� visas jeopardised progress. Seeking to shift the emphasis away from India�s intransigence about exposing its farmers to international competition, Mr Nath said a failure to increase the H1-B quota would deny India the export gains it needed to make a deal.
Echoing language often used by the EU and the US, he told the FT on Wednesday: �We agree that the talks cannot move forward with agriculture alone. Our services interests must be satisfied for progress to be made.�
Delhi reacted angrily this week to a letter sent to Indian IT companies by two US senators, alleging fraud and abuse in the H1-B programme. Charles Grassley and Richard Durbin, members of the Senate subcommittee on immigration, said the visas were being used to undercut US workers with lower-paid foreign employees.
In a letter to Susan Schwab, US trade representative, seen by the FT, Mr Nath said that the approach, which was not made through the office of the US trade representative, was surprising and unwelcome.
�Such direct intervention by US senators would only create uncertainties in the minds of these companies and undermine business confidence, especially in the current negotiations on services,� the letter said.
So great is demand for H1B visas from Indian IT companies that this year�s quota of 65,000 was filled in a day. An Indian commerce ministry official said on Thursday that India wanted the annual cap lifted to 115,000.
A USTR spokesperson on Thursday declined to comment on either the senators� letter or the negotiations over visas in the Doha round.
Officials and ministers expressed some guarded optimism ahead of this week�s meetings of the four negotiating partners, though remained non-committal about the substance of talks. Ms Schwab said that some issues, including access to the agricultural markets of developing countries, a key demand of the US, had further to go than others.
The rest of the World Trade Organisation membership, among whom frustration with the �group of four� has been rising, has been trying to increase pressure on them to make the trade-offs necessary to achieve a framework agreement before the traditional WTO summer break in August. �They are moving, but whether they are moving fast enough is another question,� a trade official said.
Crawford Falconer, the New Zealand ambassador who chairs the farm talks, last week released the first of two papers setting out the terms for a possible deal.
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seahawks
07-26 11:32 PM
For the experts on this board, my H1 expires on 9/30/07. Should I wait till after Aug. 17 to qualify for a 3-year extension?
jazz
if you qualified and filed for 485 depending on your PD, you most probably will get only 1 year extension. I just filed mine May 29th for 3 years and filed my 485 June 8th but when approved I got my H1 extension approved only for 1 year. I may be wrong, just referencing what my lawyer said..
jazz
if you qualified and filed for 485 depending on your PD, you most probably will get only 1 year extension. I just filed mine May 29th for 3 years and filed my 485 June 8th but when approved I got my H1 extension approved only for 1 year. I may be wrong, just referencing what my lawyer said..
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aguy
01-05 01:59 AM
Hello:
I have a last minute doubt - my H1B stamp on the passport is expired, so is the white I94 card. I have a valid I797 extension.
Can I use automatic revalidation? I am in doubt because the white I94 card is expired and I will have to present it to the officer at the port of entry.
Thanks.
I have a last minute doubt - my H1B stamp on the passport is expired, so is the white I94 card. I have a valid I797 extension.
Can I use automatic revalidation? I am in doubt because the white I94 card is expired and I will have to present it to the officer at the port of entry.
Thanks.
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vallabhu
11-30 10:51 AM
Thanks for your reply except for HR letter I think we sent all the mentioned documents for the first response and we are resending them back, My provisional says Mathematics and Marks list says Math may be officer got confused
I was in a similar situation.. not exaclty the same...
I had an approved I 140 and then I got the Notice of Intent To Deny, similar reason. This is what I did.
- I called my unversity and asked them to send me a detail syallbus of the courses I attended
- A letter from a third part evaluator
- An indetail letter from my HR as to what my courses where and how the courses pertain to my work.
- A detailed letter from the attorney.
looks like you do not have any thing to worry, if you took math courses and your syllabus states that then you should be ok. Make sure that you mention in very much detail and repetedly about the courses you took so that they wont miss it. Good luck I am certian you will be ok.
I was in a similar situation.. not exaclty the same...
I had an approved I 140 and then I got the Notice of Intent To Deny, similar reason. This is what I did.
- I called my unversity and asked them to send me a detail syallbus of the courses I attended
- A letter from a third part evaluator
- An indetail letter from my HR as to what my courses where and how the courses pertain to my work.
- A detailed letter from the attorney.
looks like you do not have any thing to worry, if you took math courses and your syllabus states that then you should be ok. Make sure that you mention in very much detail and repetedly about the courses you took so that they wont miss it. Good luck I am certian you will be ok.
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a_yaja
03-07 03:34 PM
My current H1 stamp is for company A.
Based on what you wrote, would you advise me to get the stamp of company C if I have plans to change to C eventually? I know that when I will be reentering USA, I will be on the payroll for company C.
Yes, you should get H1B stamp with Company C's annotation. Roseball's comments seems to suggest that it is not necessary to get a new visa as long as you H1B has not expired. However, that is not what I was told by my attorney when I changed employer and had to visit India. Also, during my interview in Chennai, the officer told me "I see that your application is for change of employer". I just said yes. I think it is best that you get in touch with an attorney and seek attorney's opinion. They are the experts and will have the correct information.
Based on what you wrote, would you advise me to get the stamp of company C if I have plans to change to C eventually? I know that when I will be reentering USA, I will be on the payroll for company C.
Yes, you should get H1B stamp with Company C's annotation. Roseball's comments seems to suggest that it is not necessary to get a new visa as long as you H1B has not expired. However, that is not what I was told by my attorney when I changed employer and had to visit India. Also, during my interview in Chennai, the officer told me "I see that your application is for change of employer". I just said yes. I think it is best that you get in touch with an attorney and seek attorney's opinion. They are the experts and will have the correct information.
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msp1976
01-11 11:34 AM
Hello All,
I am on 7th year of my H1 and my I-140 is pending. Since my current H1 is about to expire, I need to file for my 8th year of H1 extension. Do you think there could be some problem in getting my 8th year extension since my labor is approved and I-140 is pending. The way I interpreted the extension rule is that you can only get the extension if your labor is pending for more than 1 year but in my case my labor is approved and I-140 is pending.And I cannot wait for I-140 approval since my current H1 is about to expire.
Please advise.
Thanks
No ..There would be no problem...
In fact tell the lawyer to attach the 140 application receipt to the H1 extension and ask for a 3 year extension..at least 1 year they got to give...
I am on 7th year of my H1 and my I-140 is pending. Since my current H1 is about to expire, I need to file for my 8th year of H1 extension. Do you think there could be some problem in getting my 8th year extension since my labor is approved and I-140 is pending. The way I interpreted the extension rule is that you can only get the extension if your labor is pending for more than 1 year but in my case my labor is approved and I-140 is pending.And I cannot wait for I-140 approval since my current H1 is about to expire.
Please advise.
Thanks
No ..There would be no problem...
In fact tell the lawyer to attach the 140 application receipt to the H1 extension and ask for a 3 year extension..at least 1 year they got to give...
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peacocklover
10-25 04:20 PM
Situation: approved I-140 (EB-2), getting close to 5th year of H1B.
questions:
1. if i change employers, can I use my priority date even though my employer has not given me a copy of the filed/approved I-140? If i can, what if the old employer cancels the i-140: can I still use the PD from the approved 140?
2. if i start a new gc process with a new company, what stage of my GC should i be in so that my h1 can be extended beyond the 6th year? should the perm be filed or should the 140 be filed before the beginning of 5th year?
3. once h1 is extended beyond the 6th year for say 3 years, can I transfer my h1 to a new employer?
thanks.
learner
I'm not attorney but I'm suggesting based on my experience .I know answers as Ive gone through this recently...
1. Yes , Your PD for approved 140 is your possession. You can port it in your future 485 process of GC with your future employer even if your old employer revokes it.
2. You can get three year extension to your new H1 transfer with your current approved 140 of old employer.
3. Yes, You can.
Please let me know if you have any concerns.
questions:
1. if i change employers, can I use my priority date even though my employer has not given me a copy of the filed/approved I-140? If i can, what if the old employer cancels the i-140: can I still use the PD from the approved 140?
2. if i start a new gc process with a new company, what stage of my GC should i be in so that my h1 can be extended beyond the 6th year? should the perm be filed or should the 140 be filed before the beginning of 5th year?
3. once h1 is extended beyond the 6th year for say 3 years, can I transfer my h1 to a new employer?
thanks.
learner
I'm not attorney but I'm suggesting based on my experience .I know answers as Ive gone through this recently...
1. Yes , Your PD for approved 140 is your possession. You can port it in your future 485 process of GC with your future employer even if your old employer revokes it.
2. You can get three year extension to your new H1 transfer with your current approved 140 of old employer.
3. Yes, You can.
Please let me know if you have any concerns.
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dreamworld
12-18 05:21 PM
:confused:
You should reply to that letter saying that you are Not US Citizen. It is very important to reply to that notice and be a responsible US resident.
You should reply to that letter saying that you are Not US Citizen. It is very important to reply to that notice and be a responsible US resident.
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RAJASEKERAN
11-12 11:44 PM
Hi,
My educational background is Bachelor of Engginerring in Computer science.
I came to United states in December 2006. when i came i was having six years of experience.
My employer applied for my Labor in 2nd week of August 2008. After 2 weeks my attorney asked for a self affidavit having details about my work experience from 2001 till 2006 and also he gave me a format.
I prepared one affidavit for one employer ( totaly five affidavit for five employers between 2001 to 2006 ). I was team member in First and second Employer, i was a Team Lead in third employer, I was a Project Leader in Fourth and Fifth employer.
When i prepared the self affidavit i made a mistake, I gave the correct dates, correct designation ( Which is in my offer and reliving letter ) but i kept same responsiblities for all employers.
I didnot get any issues in my Labor. My Labor got approved in March 2009. Now my employer filed I - 140 in the end of september. Two days back he said that there is a RFE regarding my I - 140 case. THe RFE contains the Below Details.
"SINCE THE EVIDENCE INDICATES THAT THE BENEFICIARY DOES NOT HOLD AN ADVANCED DEGREE, IT MUST ESTABLISH THAT HIS POST-BACCALAUREATE EXPERIENCE WAS PROGRESSIVE. HOWEVER, HIS SWORN AFFIDAVITS INDICATES THAT WHILE HIS JOB TITLES CHANGED, HIS DUTIES IN 2006 WERE STILL THE SAME AS THEY WERE IN 2001 FOR EMPLOYER 2. PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW HIS EXPERIENCE WAS PROGRESSIVE"
I explained the suitation to my employer but he is saying there is only 50:50 chance for I-140 to get approved.
What will happen now ?
What type of document i should provide to USCIS for this query?
Will my I - 140 get approved ?
Thanks & Regards,
Raj..
My educational background is Bachelor of Engginerring in Computer science.
I came to United states in December 2006. when i came i was having six years of experience.
My employer applied for my Labor in 2nd week of August 2008. After 2 weeks my attorney asked for a self affidavit having details about my work experience from 2001 till 2006 and also he gave me a format.
I prepared one affidavit for one employer ( totaly five affidavit for five employers between 2001 to 2006 ). I was team member in First and second Employer, i was a Team Lead in third employer, I was a Project Leader in Fourth and Fifth employer.
When i prepared the self affidavit i made a mistake, I gave the correct dates, correct designation ( Which is in my offer and reliving letter ) but i kept same responsiblities for all employers.
I didnot get any issues in my Labor. My Labor got approved in March 2009. Now my employer filed I - 140 in the end of september. Two days back he said that there is a RFE regarding my I - 140 case. THe RFE contains the Below Details.
"SINCE THE EVIDENCE INDICATES THAT THE BENEFICIARY DOES NOT HOLD AN ADVANCED DEGREE, IT MUST ESTABLISH THAT HIS POST-BACCALAUREATE EXPERIENCE WAS PROGRESSIVE. HOWEVER, HIS SWORN AFFIDAVITS INDICATES THAT WHILE HIS JOB TITLES CHANGED, HIS DUTIES IN 2006 WERE STILL THE SAME AS THEY WERE IN 2001 FOR EMPLOYER 2. PLEASE EXPLAIN HOW HIS EXPERIENCE WAS PROGRESSIVE"
I explained the suitation to my employer but he is saying there is only 50:50 chance for I-140 to get approved.
What will happen now ?
What type of document i should provide to USCIS for this query?
Will my I - 140 get approved ?
Thanks & Regards,
Raj..
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zinchak
10-19 01:34 AM
Please see this if you have an emergency.
http://boards.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=260914&highlight=guard
Good luck
http://boards.immigration.com/showthread.php?t=260914&highlight=guard
Good luck
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at0474
12-14 02:03 PM
Sorry to say this is gone case. Try exploring the option of filing another I-140with the other approved labor you have. Also, make sure that labor has provisions to make your new I-140 approvable. Otherwise, you will be hitting against the wall twice!!
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sathish_gopalan
07-19 05:26 PM
Thanks. What happens when we apply for I485 using EB2 ?.
Do we need to withdraw the EB3 I485 ?. In that case my current EAD becomes invalid and cant we work for three months until we get the EAD using EB2 485 application ?.
Do we need to withdraw the EB3 I485 ?. In that case my current EAD becomes invalid and cant we work for three months until we get the EAD using EB2 485 application ?.
GotGC??
09-06 04:37 PM
UK and other countries in Europe must be smoking pot to think that they tap into the pool of skilled migrant workers returning from US. These people are returning back to their home countries primarily due to the recent advancements in their own countries, and to some extent due to the GC & visa mess in US.
The working (& living) condition in Europe is not as good as it is in US, and the scope for personal advancement is not as good as it is in India, China, Brazil, and many other countries. Why would anyone do a stop over in between? And that too in UK - the country with the most racism than any other European country, may be with the exception of Germany. Just look at how it reversed its GC policy (a scheme called by some other BS name).
Believe me - I'm speaking from more than 8 years of living and extensive travel in that region. You don't want to do that.
Not only India, also Britain and many more want to benefit from the high-skilled workers that the U.S. is already kicking out so they can let in more illegal Salvadoran maids:
"UK Plan to boost immigration from India"
http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/StoryPage.aspx?id=315176ec-5112-45fd-8a32-fe2c2ec6f027&ParentID=8494411a-1803-4f2f-9dfd-458359027dc2&&Headline=UK+plan+to+boost+migration+from+India
The working (& living) condition in Europe is not as good as it is in US, and the scope for personal advancement is not as good as it is in India, China, Brazil, and many other countries. Why would anyone do a stop over in between? And that too in UK - the country with the most racism than any other European country, may be with the exception of Germany. Just look at how it reversed its GC policy (a scheme called by some other BS name).
Believe me - I'm speaking from more than 8 years of living and extensive travel in that region. You don't want to do that.
Not only India, also Britain and many more want to benefit from the high-skilled workers that the U.S. is already kicking out so they can let in more illegal Salvadoran maids:
"UK Plan to boost immigration from India"
http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryPage/StoryPage.aspx?id=315176ec-5112-45fd-8a32-fe2c2ec6f027&ParentID=8494411a-1803-4f2f-9dfd-458359027dc2&&Headline=UK+plan+to+boost+migration+from+India
abhishek101
03-25 01:54 PM
Finally, someone who thinks long-term. That is why I had mentioned that we need to go beyond our immediate benefits and think longterm.
Also, people with Masters in Computer Science are also eligible, so for the many nay sayers, grunt IT work is not interesting to US govt., but there is still a lot of innovation going on in core Computer Science.
I agree fully. If we get only one thing to say it should be getting the soft limit back. It is something that already exists in current immigration system and can be defended easily. Once we have got that as an amendment we should start pushing for other things.
I always believe in One step at a time and in picking your fights. We all would love to get everything right now but a wise thing would be choose the most important fight.
SO my Vote : Reinstate Soft Quota.
Also, people with Masters in Computer Science are also eligible, so for the many nay sayers, grunt IT work is not interesting to US govt., but there is still a lot of innovation going on in core Computer Science.
I agree fully. If we get only one thing to say it should be getting the soft limit back. It is something that already exists in current immigration system and can be defended easily. Once we have got that as an amendment we should start pushing for other things.
I always believe in One step at a time and in picking your fights. We all would love to get everything right now but a wise thing would be choose the most important fight.
SO my Vote : Reinstate Soft Quota.